Posted by Mike Barrick on April 01, 19101 at 06:59:50:
In Reply to: Re: Scentura Creations purfume scam. posted by ROXANNE AND ANGELA on October 03, 19100 at 09:37:52:
Patrick, I left for a lot of reasons. I guess the main thing was that I realized Not the case, I promoted probably 25-35 offices myself, and had my owners By the time I stopped believing I was doing good, I already had 15 or so This is of key importance and that you don't realize until you So you continue on and try to believe but the truth is.......very few people One more thing about Scentura or any business like it is you may as well You made a good point about everyone there being a salesman because they On a final note regarding the "family" that you have become a part of with I said I wasn't going to write a book report but it looks like I did anyway. Michael A Barrick
It's hard for me to give you the "truth" about Scentura because I am not sure what info
they wouldn't disclose. Yes, I know Rob & Ricki..........I always thought
they were nice people.
about my 5th year or so that it really isn't a business that "anyone" can
do. It's takes not only a significant talent level but additionally, a
special type of personality having the right combination of blind faith,
tenacity, positive attitude, etc... I knew early on that not all or even
many would make it, but I always thought those that stuck it out would
become successful, so I believed I could help those that helped themselves and that the end justified the means.
undrneath me promote another 25-35 offices through the years and hardly any
of them made it past the first year. Believe it or not, there were several
that still wouldn't quit even after bringing them back in for retraining and
re promoting them and them failing again and they would keep coming back
despite their marriage having failed in the process, and ruining their
credit, etc... These people weren't quitters.......they believed what I
told them. They thought if they hung in there, eventually they would put it
all together and be a huge success. You think that it will all get better
when you open your own office. Then you struggle as an office owner but
think its going to get better once you start promoting people, then you
think its really going to happen when you become a regional, and so on......
offices underneath me and was making $1500-2000 per week in overrides before
I woke up on Monday and took a shower. Who would walk away from that kind
of money? I was on the verge of quitting after about my 6th year and sat
down with Carol Shottenfeld, ( I assume Mark and Carol are still in the
business ), and she said that if you quit when things are down ( they were
at that time ), you would feel like
a loser and you won't quit when things are going good because your making
too much money. This is the case for many people running offices.
are way in for years and actually start making significant money in
overrides. I assume you know as a promoting owner you make money off of
every bottle your promoted offices sell?
will ever make any significant money in that business. Think about
this....How many office owners have you come in contact with that are doing
well? I don't mean nice car because lets be honest........about anybody
with decent credit can be driving a Lexus or a Corvette, with a high payment
of course. I am talking about seriously living in a nice home they OWN not
rent. Money in the bank, etc.....
Aside from Rob & Ricki and their promoting owners ( I think it was Kerry
Brunson if memory serves ), I will bet you haven't met anyone or at least
not many that run offices that are actually banking alot of money. On the
other hand, I bet you have met quite a few that are getting by clinging to
the hope that "real success" is just right around the corner if they just
keep hanging on. And so the process goes.
forget ever having any time off with peace of mind. I never enjoyed being
away from my office regardless of where I went because there were always
problems from hell happening while I was away. I remember being in Maui on
one of the trips that only the top 10 people go on each year, and being
awoken by my VP calling me at 4:00 am to tell me one of my owners in
Virginia Beach had blown out with all his office bottles plus all the
bottles from an office he promoted. Made it tough to try and relax and have
a good time when I had just gotten the news somebody had stolen $5000 from
me.
make money by keeping people around moving bottles. The DC owners make
money by keeping their people around. Regional managers make money by
keeping their owners around. Larry Hahn makes money by keeping the Regional
Managers around. It's tough to believe anybody cares about you because they
have an agenda.
Scentura..........When I declared my intentions to leave and start another
business, I was about immediately cut off from my override money from the
offices I had promoted, and the my promoting owner bad mouthed me to the
offices underneath me in an attempt to get them loyal to him. After all
those years, and being used as an example of how a young guy can be
successful in the business, being on the company film, etc...... my
departure was almost humiliating. The only people I still speak to are some
"real" friends I made who are also doing other things now.
Good luck to you with whatever decision you make.
KidsChairs
2201 Long Prairie #107-195
Flower Mound, TX 75022
800-993-5578
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Nichols"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: RE: Scentura Creations
> Mike,
> My name is Patrick Nichols. I have been working for Designers' Int. in
> Birmingham, Al, a D.C. for scentura. You propably know Rob and Rikki
Zuckert
> who run the regional office here. Anyway, I am, or should I say that I was
> only two weeks away from moving to Louisville, Ky to be the right hand for
a
> couple that is going to open their office there on the first of February.
I
> quit today because of the way some things were said and of how several
> questions were left unanswered. I know that they make everything look
great
> and that they promise you everything, but something doesn't feel quite
right
> about it. could you please let me know a few reasons you quit. Everyone
> there is a salesman and I kept feeling like they were trying to sell an
idea
> without telling the entire truth. I don't want to bash the company or
spread
> false rumors, i would just like to know the truth about what they won't
tell
> you. Please let me know.
>
> Thank you for your time,
> patrick
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